concept of a pod living in a community and having important intermediaries in that important parent-child relationship. >> greg, are there people in your kid's life that a lot of parents overlook as being a really important component to helping raise a successful, well balanced kid? >> the grandparents, definitely. the -- i think every parent should cultivate a special relationship with the grandparents. they bring such a sense much family -- of family, tradition, family history to a child and they do it in the same unconditional love that you as a parent do. myself, and my family, we get together every thursday night. we've done it for almost 22 years, i think. every thursday night, all the grandchildren and the grandparents get together. television's off, phones are off, all technology is gone. and we set around and we talk.